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2 GOP Lawmakers Push for Big Cut in County Supervisor Pay

Bill proposed by state Sen. Alberta Darling and Rep. Joe Sanfelippo calls for binding referendum making supervisors part time and axing salary by 70 percent.

 

Calling it a plan to help Milwaukee County deal with its fiscal woes, two Republican state legislators on Friday unveiled a plan that would enable voters to decide whether to drastically cut salaries of county supervisors.

The legislation proposed by Sen. Alberta Darling of River Hills and Rep. Joe Sanfelippo of West Allis would authorize a binding referendum in April that calls for reducing salaries by 70 percent — from about $50,000 to $15,000 — and making the positions part time.

"This bill is about local control," Darling said in a press release. "It let's voters decide what's more important: parks or politicians." 

Darling and Sanfelippo are seeking co-sponsors for the bill, which also would eliminate health care and pension benefits for supervisors, and would significantly cut the board's budget. The two unveiled their plan at a Friday press conference at the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in Milwaukee.

"Milwaukee County already has trouble paying its bills. There doesn't seem to be enough money for vital services like transportation and public safety, let alone the Zoo, our museums and parks," Sanfelippo said. "By restoring a part-time board to Milwaukee County, as we have in every other county in the state, we will empower citizen-legislators to bring new ideas and fresh energy to Milwaukee County."

Milwaukee County Supervisor Theo Lipscomb represents the 1st District, including Bayside, Brown Deer, Fox Point, Glendale, River Hills and a portion of the Northeast side of Milwaukee.

"During the recalls, citizens and legislators alike argued that there already exist a mechanism for voters to express their discontent with local leaders - elections," Lipscomb said. "This is tantamount to a recall less than a year following an election where our stance on this very issue was a key differentiation between me and my opponent."

"The size and nature of Milwaukee County demonstrates why we are different from others in Wisconsin," Lipscomb continued. "Yet, over the last decade the board has reduced its size from 25 to 18, which is below the state average. The 1st district itself, with about 52,000 people, is now more populous than more than 30 other counties in the state."

Rep. Dan Knodl (R-Germantown), who previously served on the Washington County Board, said Milwaukee County supervisors just doesn't have as much work to do, so the proposed $15,000 salary is still more than equitable for the workload. 

"The salary is much too high in accordance with the workload. I think this is perhaps not reduced enough," said Knodl, who attended Friday's press conference. "Again, you can only compare to around the state. Washington County was $6,500; this is twice that for certainly a comparable workload if not less. So, the salary is still a very fair salary."

But not everyone is in favor of reforming the board's hours and salary. 

Protestors marched out of the basement of the chamber chanting: "We are the people, we are united. We don't want the state running Milwaukee." 

One member of the group was Manny Vellon of Milwaukee. He said there are too many issues that need to be worked on in Milwaukee County, and dropping County Board positions to part time will leave too many problems on the back burner. 

"Supervisors part time? What’s next, the aldermen part time? The mayor part time? What’s next, Sandy Pasch part time?" Vellon asked. "Ya know, you talk the talk, now walk the walk. Live on $15,000 and see how that feels."

Franklin was one of the 12 municipalities that voted on an advisory referendum in April about reducing the size of the Milwaukee County Board. Franklin Mayor Tom Taylor, who attended the press conference, said the board didn't even react to the voters' voices saying it's time to downsize. 

"After the referendum question by 12 communities, you’d think there would have been some reaction from the County Board to adjust this or that. There wasn’t," Taylor said. 

"You cannot have 19 county executives, you can only have one," Taylor said. "And there’s got to be an understanding. Maybe it’s well overdue for 50 or 60 years, an understanding between the county executive’s office and the County Board as to how they’re going to operate county government."

Milwaukee County Executive Chris Abele responded to today's press conference in support of the reform. 

"I applaud this legislation and look forward to the residents of Milwaukee County having a say in the future of their government," he said. 

On Monday, 19 county municipalities will meet at the Fox Point Police Department to discuss municipalities absorbing costs associated with recently held elections, as well as the new proposal for the Milwaukee County Board reform. U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson is also slated to attend that public meeting. 

  • Should Milwaukee County Supervisors take a 70% pay cut?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes.
        15 (57%)
    • No.
        9 (34%)
    • I can't decide. I'll explain why in the comments.
        2 (7%)
    Total votes: 26
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Alberta Darling, County Executive Chris Abele, Joe Sanfelippo, Milwaukee County Board, and pay cut

Jay Sykes

12:48 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Can someone explain the rational behind the guy in the picture holding the "Latinos for full time Supervisors = Safer Communities" sign.

Milwaukee County is the only county in Wisconsin where no un-incorporated areas remain. Most all of the police protection is the responsibility of the local community. One generally only sees the Milwaukee County Sheriff on the Freeway* or at the Courthouse.

* Milwaukee is the only County in Wisconsin where the Sheriff, under contract with the State, patrols the Interstate.

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Sarah Worthman

1:16 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Thanks for the comment, Jay. In an effort to review both sides of this issue, we've got opinions from both state legislators and the man above is a protestor who took the opposing side of this issue. I'm adding additional quotes and information to this story shortly.

zzz

2:16 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

How about letting the public vote on cutting the Wisconsin Senators pensions and health benerfits?

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Tosa720

10:47 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I wholeheartedly agree - Alberta Darling and SanFelippo should be the ones taking a pay cut. This is just another move on their part to gain power over the entire State - Next thing you know they will be appointing business managers or administrators like Michigan did. Milwaukee does NOT need interference from Alberta Darling or SanFelippo - they are puppets who should work for their own constituents in their own areaand stay out of the County's business . Cut their pay and next time around dump them by NOT voting for them!!

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Greg

5:32 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

"should work for their own constituents in their own areaand stay out of the County's business"

HUH? What county do the constituents in there own area live in?

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$$andSense

5:51 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

zzz

Excellent! Time to kick the foxes out of the chicken house. Who do these self indulgent trough feeders think they are? State and fed electorate should not receive one stitch of taxpayer money or benefits for holding office. Elected office is a privilege, not some self serving opportunity. We all have the responsibility to throw these elected POS’s out of office. Do it!

Bob McBride

2:29 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I think Chris Abele was supportive of this. Wonder if he'll get the blow-back Walker would have if he were still in the position and supporting it?

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Bren

2:32 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I absolutely disagree with cutting the hours and pay of County Supervisors. This is in my view an essential representative tier. I've been in on a number of County Supervisor meetings and have met with quite a few Supervisors. All I've met represent the interests of their constituents and all spend a significant amount of time meeting with residents. They are the last defense against tin-eared decisions made in the ivory tower of the County Executive's office. A CE who has no understanding or concern for actual needs or program impact and a toothless County board would be a disaster for Milwaukee County. Cutting the hours of the Supervisors would open the door to serious problems down the road.

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Bob McBride

2:50 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Well we've had the pension scandal under Ament, all the stuff you didn't like under Walker, Abele's been pretty much following in Walker's footsteps and they haven't been able to do much about any of that. If that's the best they can do, losing a few of them or making them part time like everywhere else doesn't seem like a very big gamble. If it doesn't work out, change it again. The county is sucking wind and can't afford to maintain the luxury of a marginally effective counterbalance to CE abuses, whether they be actual or embellished. Lets give it a shot. It's not like we're going to be losing some irreplaceable public servants.

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CowDung

2:56 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

How many hours does the typical county supervisor currently work per week?

KHD

2:39 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

They already had a non binding referendum and it was about 75% in favor of this. The board did absolutely nothing with the wish of the people. I am all for it. I think it will happen.

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David Tatarowicz

4:55 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Why do Republicans hate everything MIlwaukee? They are constantly attacking the city, the schools, and now the county ----- what ever happened to the agenda on JOBS??????

I would be the first to agree that not all local government is run very well -- but in comparison to some of the fiascos at the state level with cost over runs galore, programs that don't work, and an agency co-chaired by Walker that doesn't even bother to keep track of loans that are given out -- I would think that there is way too much glass in the walls of the Capitol for the legislators to throw stones.

And what is up with Alberta --- it seems she is on an agenda to destroy as much of Milwaukee as she can --- this proposal, the teacher deal, coming up the residency requirement ---- why is she so bitter ?

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Bob McBride

7:15 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

How is making it possible for the citizens of Milwaukee County to vote on a binding referendum on makeup of the Milwaukee County Board attacking the county? What could be more pro-Milwaukee County than giving its residents a voice in the matter?

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Robert Hansen

9:38 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Last I heard there is not going to be a referendum put to the voters on this matter. That being the case, it is an overreach of the state and should be a matter of local control. If you took an average of what other supervisory boards make for number of residents they represent, milwaukee should be getting about $30,000, so they are getting more at the moment, but a cut to $15,000 is too much. Government shouldn't be a job, it should be a duty and we have lost some of that at certain levels.
The final point I will make is, why didn't Sanfileppo propose this while he was on the county board and put it up to referendum then. Seems he was more than happy to take the money while he was there.

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Jay Sykes

9:53 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

@ Robert Hansen... Can you provide a link for your information on the number of constituents/per supervisor,pay scale, and the total board size for each of Wisconsin's 72 Counties?

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Bob McBride

10:08 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

While you're at it, see if you can find something that states there's no referendum included in the bill. That directly contradicts everything I've heard about it and also the content of the article we're commenting on here.

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Robert Hansen

10:24 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Waukesha has 25 county board members for 390,730 residents. They get $9,121 and the board chairperson gets $52,821. So you have 9121x24+52821 to get $271,725. Divide 271,725 by 390,730 and they get paid 70 cents per citizen. Milwaukee has 18 board members earning about $50,000 according to any article I have seen. Milwaukee county has a population of 952,532. So each Waukesha supervisor represents 15,629 residents vs. Milwaukee county at 52,918 per supervisor. If Waukesha board members are being paid $0.70 per resident they represent, and Milwaukee was based on the same scale, Milwaukee supervisors would be paid $37,042. So there is one example from what is arguably one of the most conservative counties in the state.

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Bob McBride

10:31 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Robert it looks like there are two issues there. The change in board structure and the budget cut. Based on the link, the board structure would go to a binding referendum vote in April. The budget cut would not.

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Robert Hansen

10:36 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Bob, your right, I miss read it the first time through.

Ann

5:46 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

While I do not like the idea of the State getting involved in the county issue - the County Board has thumbed their noses at their voters for too long. The voters have been asking for a reduced board for some time and they do nothing. The county board was not as large as it currently is until Ament got on board - check out WTMJ620 - interesting article.

The county board does not do much for the small communities - they worry about the City of Milwaukee only - well - the City of Milw has their own officials - let them handle their city.

What did the County Board do for this years budget - they RAISED our TAXES and ignorned the will of the people and the people who are unemployeed and on fixed income. The only reason most people at least in Greenfield didn't feel the pinch of the the increased tax rate was because our PROPERTY LOST VALUE.

So - to the county board - you are getting what you asked for - you could have done something and ignored it - sorry.

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Chris Anderson

7:10 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

This is fantastic. Most county supervisors will fight this tooth and nail .. but I'm optimistic this will pass the State legislature and be signed into law. Then the voters will resoundingly go against the county supervisors, proving how out of touch they are, and have been for 10+ years.

Outstanding turn of events.

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Random Blog Commenter

7:23 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

The local voters get to vote and the local politicians have to abide by that vote. Sounds like local control to me.

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Tom Gaertner

7:48 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I'd say this should just be a start.

I think the same cuts should be applied to state legislators as well. And do away with their health and pension benefits. A number of states are governed with part-time legislatures that convene every other year to hammer-out a budget and pass legislation. When they're done they return to a real job.

We need citizen legislators to bring new ideas and fresh energy to state government.

Come to think of it. Isn't the entire extended Fitzgerald clan employed in state government?

Scandalous!

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Bren

11:28 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Yes, there are three Fitzgeralds in state government. Papa Fitzgerald, now head of the state troopers, will have a triple-dip pension when he retires.

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Been there done that

9:25 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em! Apparently they know something we don't. Cream rises to the top and $h!t floats. I like to think of the Fitzgeralds as the latter.

Steve Pfister

8:18 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Lets cut Alberta Darling salary and send her packing next election. This lady hasn't a clue.

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Keith Schmitz

7:35 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

SIRI has a more life-like personality than Alberta.

The real OC

10:02 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I love the idea of cutting the board! Why shouldn't the votors decide?

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Keith Schmitz

7:36 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

No, you love the idea of less democracy and more Koch Brothers control.

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Greg

6:53 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Keith Jackass, Explain the Koch/Milwaukee County connection.

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Robert Hansen

7:18 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

If you are unaware of how the Koch brothers work, check out Robert Greenwald's Koch Brothers Exposed on Netflix.

Mike in OC

10:16 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I applaud Joe SanFelippo... he tried to do this as a county supervisor only to get shot down.... I give him credit to sticking by his beliefs. I wish we had more representatives out there like him. On the flip side, there are those like Chris "larceny" Larson and Lena "horny" Taylor who will bash everyone and accomplish nothing.

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Ron Clone

7:06 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I'm not against cutting the supervisor's pay, just maybe not so drastically. They do accomplish something and are in touch with their constituents. This is more than we can say about most state level "representatives".
While we are cutting, let's follow Nebraska's lead and make elected state officials get their own health insurance. It has just been introduced there by a Democrat. Let's see if it gets legs. Since our lovely state is controlled by repubs and special interests (mostly their own), I doubt it would make it into law. Might be worth a try though. Politics is the root of all of this. Let the repubs claim they need their coverage.

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robert heule

7:12 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Cut their own pay and make the Legislature part time. The less it is session the less damage it can cause.

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AWD

7:58 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

The Milwaukee County Board is a radical Progressive Board. I've been told the Board is having behind the scenes talks about making Milwaukee County a sanctuary for illegal immigrants. It's time to clip the Communist wings of Marina Dimitrijevic.

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Lyle Ruble

9:08 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

@AWD...One more conspiracy theory. Let's keep it real.

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Lee

10:16 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Are you for real? Or a left over from the 1950's.

George Mitchell

8:07 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

The Mayor of Franklin nailed it. There should be one executive and one board of supervisors. Not 19 executives. "Bren" must get talking points straight from the Board chair. And then there is Keith Schmitz, invoking Koch. Good argument, Keith.

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Greg in OC

9:12 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Why does the state want to interfere with Milwaukee business? I thought the repubs were against government interference. Worry about jobs and other statewide problems and stay out of local affairs.

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Bob McBride

9:22 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

State government interferes with Milwaukee business, as you call it, all the time. It kicks taxes back to Milwaukee for MPS, for instance. I suppose they could stop doing that if you don't like them interfering with Milwaukee business.

Both legislators are from Milwaukee County. Republicans are also against bloated government. The County Board is bloated government. You'll get your chance to vote in support of bloated government should this bill pass.

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Anne

9:36 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Sorry, Greg in OC. Should have read your comment before I posted mine below.

Anne

9:35 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I don't get why these state bozos are butting into County business. Why don't they work on digging up those 250,000 jobs Scooter needs by 2014?

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Garrence Kennedy

10:36 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Joe is a politician, his job is to look out for his constituents! He has been a successful business man for several years, and will take his experience to Madison to do the right thing for this state!

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Lee

11:35 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

You really believe that. Sounds more like "his" sour grapes to me. Of course he now has the grand dame puppeteer Alberta following him. We rank almost at the bottom of the pile in job creation,and here we are hoping to put some more people on the unemployment roles. That is why Madison should stay in Madison.

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Been there done that

1:06 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Garrence I have to respectfully disagree with your theory that being a successful business man will lead him to make correct decisions for us. We just had a long running milk plant in a volatile industry with razor this margins shut down by some young, punky, hotshot shark out of California. He could not live his lifestyle on single digit profit margins. Now look what happened, 100 more families affected with the loss of a wage earner.

Tosa720

10:59 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

The State supposedly has an agenda (per Walker's bogus promises when running for election) to create jobs in Wisconsin - 250,000 if I remember correctly. Well, the facts - announced Thursday - tell all. Wisconsin is 8th from the bottom in creating jobs in th eentire country. If Walker would spend more time staying in th eState and actually working, and the State legislature would spend more time on State business instead of trying to create a police State, stop people from singing songs, or holding up the State constitution on a piece of paper, maybe we would be doing better as a State. They have nothing to show for their own part time work, so why attack the County or City - they are the ones setting the example of getting full time pay for the bogus, pathetic part time circus they are running.

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Tosa720

11:03 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Even the State of Alabama has created more jobs than Scott Walker......... pathetic!!
Walker gets paid about $147,000 per year to run around and get paid for out-of-state speaking engagements, all the while only touching down in Wisconsin every now and then only working a few hours her and there - strictly for the sake of making an appearance.

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Bob McBride

11:07 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Alabama's a "Right-to-Work" state. It shouldn't surprise anyone that they'd be doing better than Wisconsin in job creation. Most "Right-to-Work" states are.

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Lee

12:18 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Hey Bob McBride did you really mean Alberta's right to work state? The Darling of the GOP.

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Been there done that

12:53 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

So we went from let's say without doing research 0 right to work states to say 1/2 the country as right to work states. Possibly some day we may have 50 right to work states. With 50 right to work states the playing field will arguably be level. Now what? What will be the next step to attracting business to WI?

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Bob McBride

4:35 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

As far a the State of WI goes, I don't see that much mattering because we're not going to be a "Right to Work" state.

I think Scott Walker's biggest mistake, beyond, suggesting we'd see 250K jobs, was suggesting the state was "Open for Business". This state has never been open for business. 100M people made very clear in the early part of 2011 that WI is not open for business. Another million or so made it very clear that even suggesting that WI is open for business will get you recalled. Wisconsin is open for union action, public employment, expanding and enhancing the public education and university systems, any government funded foray in to infrastructure improvement, mass transit, technologies with little or no real current demand, etc.

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Bren

10:58 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Bob, that's not what fueled the recall and you know it. Asking public employees to take another financial hit right after Doyle did the same was harsh but it was a recession. Asking for and implementing ALEC union stripping legislation and hiding it in a "budget repair" bill stoked the flame. Comparing Doyle to Walker, both cut pay of state workers and restructured debt because of the recession. Doyle added new debt, Walker added new interest charges/same difference. The biggest difference, based on my observation, between the two is Walker's arrogance, embrace of a special interest group (he joined ALEC in the early '90s as a state representative), and desire for the spotlight. I had a number of issues with Doyle but of the two he was the competent governor.

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Bob McBride

11:41 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Bren,

The message sent by both the demonstrations and recall was that Wisconsin puts preserving it's public employee unions ahead of any desire there might be for attracting new business to the state. Your personal reasons for signing the recall and supporting the protests are immaterial.

David Tatarowicz

12:16 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

For years now the State has been contracting out work that had been traditionally done by state employees to outside contractors --- at a much higher cost (I will let anyone/everyone fight over those numbers) ---

The outsourcing of work has long been alleged to be very good for he Legislators and Governor in raising contributions for their political campaigns --- quid pro quo anyone ???

Finally a law was passed that required the state to publish how much they were outsourcing and the economics of it --- Walker's administration has finally put out their report -- 8 months late -- and from Urban Milwaukee -- according to Bill Lueders, Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism - Jan 10th, 2013

"Overall, the amount spent by state agencies and the University of Wisconsin System on outside contractors increased by more than 5 percent over the prior year, to a total of $515.8 million. All of the increase owed to state agencies; the UW System held steady at $125 million."

Just a thought -- but maybe Alberta should be more concerned with what is happening in her own house --- just a thought.

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Been there done that

12:46 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I agree. I work for a publicly traded company that does a lot of subcontracting. One of the reasons, beside getting work completed, is kickbacks to supervisors and managers.

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Bren

10:49 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Some of that outsourcing led to damage of the marble floors in the State Capitol recently; how much that will cost to repair is not yet known. The state employees who used to do the cleaning knew how to take care of the floors.

This is simply Scott Walker in action at the state level, without a board of supervisors to play "dad" and fix the worst budget mistakes. This comes as no surprise to me, that's why I didn't vote for him.

Dave Koven

12:31 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

How about paying Walker $1 for each new job he creates. He could earn a bonus of up to $103,000 if he honored his promise of 250,000 jobs that stuck around. If jobs disappear, so does his salary. Of course he would pick up his own health care costs.

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Greg

7:04 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

What, what?
Would you apply the same standards to Obama? If Obama got $1 for every $1 he cut the deficit, he would owe just $600,000,000,000 and change. He could not afford to fly coach, much less AF1.

Here, here!!!

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Robert Hansen

7:12 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Perhaps someone needs to read article 1 section 8 of the constitution again.

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Keith Schmitz

10:35 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

By the above criteria, The President would be making three million dollars.

And Greg, your comment was pure nuts and the usual diversionary BS, but what else is new?

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Greg

10:46 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

New? It's past 11:00am and you're not face down on the bar. That's new.

Greendale Dad

8:15 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Here's what I don't get: the state leg. was all-too-happy to take away local control on issues they didn't like (Remember the sick-day referendum? It passed, and yet the state leg decided that that was meaningless and decided to overturn the direct will of the people.) Yet now they try to pretend that they want to listen to what people say? It's just another case of hypocrisy from our state "representatives."

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Greg

10:27 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

You don't get why they promote things they like and stop things they don't?

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David Tatarowicz

1:16 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

@GD You are not saying that Scott, Alberta et al are hypocrites --- are you ?

Tosa720

12:11 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

If Walker is the genius he purports himself to be, he should be able to create the jobs he promised...what genius promises things they cannot and will not deliver. It boils down to integrity and a good work ethic, which is obvious he does not possess. Get to work Walker - do your job instead of traveling around doing all this PR on yourself. Wisconsin should be in the top 10 of new jobs - the rest of us - the real workers - have a great work ethic and produce quality goods and materials. The reason we have not added these jobs is that Scott Walker is out selling himself instead of selling Wisconsin. Sadly, it appears our governor has no special place in his heart for his own State. He has proven this over and over again.

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The Anti-Alinsky

1:07 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Yea Tosa, profound rhetoric like that is what makes businesses want to start or relocate business here.

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Tosa720

11:50 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

What good is a Right-to-work State when the pay is less than a fair living wage that anyone can actually live off of. In Right-to-work States, far too many people who have to work for those low wages need supplemental help to survive - like food stamps, medicaid, etc. If the US is going to continue with a consumer based economic system, the consumers have to earn enough to buy consumer goods and services. The lower the wages, the more assistance is needed for survival....
The Right-to-work States have lowered the bar, and corporations looking for nothing but the lowest employee costs will not come. These governors and legislators do not realize they have started something equivalent to a gas war.... or a coupon war. If the workers wise up in those states, they will organize and get rid of this oppressive bill in their respective states.

The Anti-Alinsky

1:05 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

This is one of the best ideas to come out of the Milwaukee County Board in years. There are essentially two choices, a truly citizen-run board, or a full-time board of professional politicians. There are advantages and disadvantages to both.
A full time board has more time to meet with their constituents, but how often are they called upon for that?
A citizen-run board is more likely to draw people that really want to serve.
A full-time board would be more involved in the workings of the county operations, but as Franklin Mayor Tom Taylor stated above, that's 19 County Executives wannabes interfering in government operations (remember Micheal McGee Jr, or was it Micheal Jackson?)
A citizen-run board would have more turn over, not necessarily a bad thing as it would provide broader input over time. It would mean more new supervisors requiring some time to learn the system and politics of the county.
A full-time board can spend more time making political contacts to be called upon at election time, making them beholden to others.

My personal opinion is that it is better to have a citizen-board. Despite a few disadvantages, the closer the power is to the people, the better.

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David Tatarowicz

1:21 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

@T A-A Intellectually I agree with you -- but it has not come close to working well with Shorewood's Village Board --- a prime example of Ellen Eckman who is finally leaving, after years of undistinguished service, showing often a lack of understanding of the issues.

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$$andSense

5:15 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

"My personal opinion is that it is better to have a citizen-board. Despite a few disadvantages, the closer the power is to the people, the better."

Yes, Anti, that is where it should go in my opinion. There should be no such thing as payroll career politicians from mayors right up to fed senators, other than per diem and some reasonable compensation. Elected office should be a privilege and as such the office should be respected with true represented service and not money.

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