Which Do You Prefer — Black Friday or Cyber Monday?
It's time to get your shop on, and rise of online shopping and Cyber Monday has given deal-hungry consumers some options.
With Thanksgiving occurring on the earliest possible day this year, the official holiday shopping season is as long as it can be.
For years, the Friday following Thanksgiving — Black Friday — was the unquestioned king of that season. But the furious growth of the Internet has spawned Cyber Monday, an online shopping frenzy that grew 22 percent from 2010 to $1.25 billion in sales in the United States.
It still pales in comparison to Black Friday, which last year generated $52.4 billion in sales, up from $45 billion in 2010.
Many shoppers enjoy the early rising, elbow-to-elbow aisles and energy of in-person shopping on Black Friday, and the game-planning that goes with it. Others would prefer to sit in their home or office and cross off gift lists with clicks of a mouse.
Which is your favorite? Vote in our unscientific poll, then jump into the comment stream to tell us about your holiday shopping habits and secrets.
And while you’re at it, check out holiday shopping hours for major area shopping malls:
Joel Kopischke
6:44 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
The story should also talk about Small Business Saturday. Locally owned small businesses keep more of the money in our community. Shop local! http://www.sba.gov/saturday
@-;-'---- Rose
12:42 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Yes, Joel...I learned this from my sister's husband many years ago when we all lived in Manitowoc where his parents owned the local Ace Hardware. Wherever he lived they always shopped local in later years. In Waukesha they shopped downtown first...always.
KKP
2:10 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Absolutely, Joel!!!!
theresa graff
7:02 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
I second Joel's comment. And make a plea for Boycotting shopping before 7am on Friday. The employees, their families and families everywhere are missing out on the greatest holiday of the year - Thanksgiving, by cutting the holiday short to punch in for the next holiday. And we wonder what has happened to the American family. We're so distracted. we don't make time for each other.
alt ideas needed
8:17 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
make everyday a small business day
Craig
8:58 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Some employees may want to work Thanksgiving evening in exchange for Christmas Eve off. Or maybe they need the money and are happy to have a job, and the extra hours.
Not everyone relies on Obamabucks to pay their bills, and soon the banks won't accept 'that' money.
Justa Comment
7:12 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
I feel sorry for the employees of the stores who are so greedy they feel they need to be open on Thanksgiving, on top of Black Friday. If people would only stay at home with their families that day, maybe the stores won't repeat this next year.
Bob McBride
7:35 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Stores aren't "greedy". They're in business to make money. If consumers weren't willing to line up at virtually any hour of the day for a chance to save 20% on a limited supply of something they don't need, stores definitely wouldn't be open at that hour because there are costs associated with being open.
This has become a sport and social event for some people. Not my cup of tea, but so what? It's now a part of the culture.
Daniel S.
12:34 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Bob is right, stores aren't greedy, stores are inanimate objects; CEO's and their underlings are Greedy. People line up, because the Greedy employ marketing gurus with psychological expertise that know how to get into peoples' heads. It's the same method the government uses through media and other events that happen daily to distract the majority from paying attention to the shenanigans taking place with OUR tax dollars.
Bob McBride
1:42 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Keep an eye open for the black helicopters, Daniel. They'll be after you now that you've exposed them.
Luke
12:15 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Daniel,
I think you've confused the DNC with CEO's.
Daniel S.
7:03 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
No confusion here Luke, it's just the way it is. Happy Thanks-Giving ; )
Burton Robertson
7:49 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Very disappointed in The Patch. With your emphasis on small communities and not one mention about Small Business Saturday ! Reconsidering my stance and support of the Patch ! Wondering which paper to buy!
Bob McBride
8:16 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Burton, they usually run a separate article (generally more in depth than this) on "Small Business Saturday" a little closer to the actual date. Still got a few days left here.
Jim Price
10:41 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Burton, Patches across the country – 900 of them – have been participating for weeks in a joint Small Business Saturday campaign, with each Patch site publishing a minimum of two small business stories every week – many of us do more. Small business is at the heart of every community, and it is at the core of Patch to cover small, locally owned business day-to-day throughout the year. But in my own Wauwatosa, in Brookfield, Greendale and the North Shore communities surrounding Bayshore Mall, in Waukesha – most Patch places, really – large retailers also matter, very much. They provide jobs and tax revenues, and certainly I believe that in the case of Mayfair Mall also create very large and powerful magnets that draw people from throughout the region to Wauwatosa, to the benefit of many of our smaller, indepedent businesses as well.
Historically, Patch has favored small business in day-to-day, year-round coverage. During the holidays, we support them, too, and strongly, but not by ignoring large business interests. If you visit Wauwatosa Patch right now, you will find two related small business stories at the top of the page – above the Black Friday story.
Denise Konkol
1:17 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
I'd search 'small business Satuday' Burton...we've been posting information from local merchants. We are also not a paper that is purchased.
Vigilante
8:04 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
So more and more Americans fall for this silly notion of sleeping outside g=for the best deals. Well China bathes in our money. JHEEEEEZUS people how much crap do you still need in your home you self rightous. If you only new the store mark ups that are put on this stuff as it all comes over from China. Its to bad the greed of store owners have ruined the whole meaning of Thanksgiving, young people have no understanding of why we have this holiday, only thing they know is to shop. Besides haven't our public schools instilled in them how racist our founding fathers where!
Steve ®
11:40 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Most retail is 30% tops. With the internet the playing field is even more level. There are so many loss leaders done on bf. Consumer spending drives our success and employees millions.
Steve ®
11:37 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Cyber Monday was a fad and is dying out. I will not be offering any special deals this year. Last year we had such a rush on Black Friday very few orders were taken Monday, They already blew their wad
Black Friday is our single best sales day of the year.
Str8shooter
12:20 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
If the consumers didn't have the demand the businesses wouldn't open early so before blaming the businesses for having the employees work on a holiday, blame the consumers who are shopping on a holiday. I don't get into Black Friday shopping but the demand is there so any smart business will provide the supply. Family values have gone down but people have the right to do what they want and many family members do Black Friday together. Employees know that is a part of their job and can find another one if they don't like it.
Str8shooter
12:25 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
But to answer the question...I don't take advantage of Black Friday or cyber Monday. I have purchased items on the Internet but am cautious due to not being able to see the item before buying. At the same time, I personally refuse to stand in line for hours in the cold at 2am. Just not for me.
@-;-'---- Rose
12:57 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Str8...I surely don't either!!...but I read all the comments here and most are valid opinions. My sons work overtime [not in stores] every chance they get to keep up with their bills as they listened to me while growing up: "You'll find your best helping hand here [stretched out arm and wiggling fingers] at he end of your own arm."
Daniel S.
12:29 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Here here for the Boycott Idea for shopping on Thanksgiving Day, if we could only get everyone in the nation to not shop before even 6am Friday it would send a message to the retailers. We Are tired of your Greed invading into every last aspect of Family or Individual Life. The Rulers of these companies are sitting on some Island or in their Castle while their slaves work their fingers to the bone for scraps of food fit for a dog in some cases. They are not showing THANKS to those who fill their pockets with Gold & Diamonds, they need to be hit where it hurts. We should organize an ALL Weekend Boycott and Christmas Holiday boycott. Instead of buying all the junk they want us to, we should buy nothing but gift cards for people, stick them with all this merchandise they try to shove down our throats. Buy useful gift cards, like for grocery stores, or restaurants, public transportation. Let's show them the Power of The PEOPLE. Happy Thanksgiving ALL : )
Lex Parsimoniae
9:32 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
Really? You want the source of the greed? A most simplistic explanation can be found on the Wal-Mart episode of South Park (juvenile, I know, but it seems to fit in with your outlook).
Spoiler alert - when they wanted to learn the secret of the Wal-Mart success (the metaphor for your corporate greed), and broke into the safe to find it, they found only a mirror.
Stores keep opening earlier and earlier, because the sheep keep lining up earlier and earlier.
mau
1:08 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Get ready to max out your credit cards.
Cash, the gift that keeps on giving.
I'm wondering if these same shoppers would camp out all night to be 1st in line for a job. And once they ram through the door of the employment office, running each other over, then hit and shove each other to be assured of getting the prized job.
Craig
8:28 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Good point Mau. I bet they wait in lines for free cell phones or gas for Quest cards. But when there is a job to be had, they all claim they can't find one.
I wonder if it is because most jobs test to be sure applicants are drug free?
mau
8:48 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Can't pass the drug test, can't read or do simple math and can't even show on time for the interview. This eliminates a large portion of candidates. Some Milwaukee liberal pundits would like to see marijuana legalized as this would take care of the drug test failures. So what do you get, a stoned employee who still can't read or do simple math and doesn't show up for work.
Daniel S.
11:17 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Legalizing marijuana at the state level does not mean an employer cannot drug test you for usage. They drug test for alcohol use too and it's legal. The only thing legalization would change, is the number of arrests for possession, lighten court load, save taxpayer $$'s on incarceration and free up police to focus on other more criminal acts.
@-;-'---- Rose
1:16 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Oh sure...I can just see all the "die hards" letting the lines get longer and longer with all the "die-even-harders" while they sleep or visit with relatives. I'm usually an optimist but can't get on this bandwagon.
Denise Konkol
1:19 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
HATE the Thanksgiving Day opens, no matter how late into the evening. It can wait. And year after year, people are told that the best time to buy is the week leading into Christmas.
KKP
2:12 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
IMHO, Black Friday, and the now Thanksgiving shopping, should be done away with. It is totally unfair to the stores' employees, AND it is a danger to consumers. Also unfair tactics on the part of most of the stores who advertise a huge deal and have many two of that item, and 500 people line up outside and trample each other to get those two items. It's just stupid. And dangerous...and unfair. Get a grip, America....nothing is worth the danger or the sacrificed family time.
Steve ®
3:43 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
We should give the doctors and nurses off too. So unfair
Bob McBride
3:51 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
It's too bad people don't have a choice as to whether they participate or not. This year I'm going to try hiding under a stairway in the basement when they come sweeping through the neighborhood, rousting us from our sleep, loading us into the backs of panel trucks and hauling us off to stand in line for hours in the dark in front of some Walmart. I'd really rather not go.
Daniel S.
4:37 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
If we give medical personnel off, how about Law Enforcement & Fire Protection, Bus Drivers, Airline Personnel, Public Utility personnel . . . why don't we just shut down the whole country for the day?
MDS
4:57 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Steve, We do give doctors and nurses off on Thanksgiving. Try making a doctor or dentist appointment on Thanksgiving, or schedule some elective surgery at midnight on Friday. Sure, the emergency rooms are open, but regularly scheduled medical procedures are not.
Steve ®
8:47 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
You're reading waaaaaay too far into my comment. If broke my keg on Thursday an orthopedic Dr would show up to pop it pack in place. A nurse would be there for eye candy and the janitor to clean up the mess. How unfair.
MDS
9:45 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
Steve, if you break open a keg on Thanksgiving, then you are celebrating differently then I do! ;>)
Craig
10:43 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
Steve dropped a keg on his leg last Thanksgiving?
Time to change to the hard stuff, it is much lighter.
Steve ®
12:53 pm on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
ha, silly phone posting while in a deer stand.
Jack lives with Steve ®
KKP
3:47 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Health care is necessary. Shopping is not.
James R Hoffa
4:06 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
@KKP -
Hoffa agrees. But it makes you wonder how many people appear to have money for 24" spinner rims, cell phone plans, fancy kicks, bling, pay TV services, cruise vacations, booze, cigs, illegal narcotics, etc. and yet, don't seem to ever have a dime to spend on their own health care, and instead insist that the government provide it / subsidize it for them.
Funny how that works, isn't it?
KKP
4:10 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
There's no accounting for some peoples' priorities.
Str8shooter
8:29 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
Hoffa completely agree except the part about cell plans. Many of the people you're referring to don't pay for cell plans either. Tax payers pay for their one or more cell plans and will soon also pay their healthcare.
Daniel S.
4:40 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
@ B McB "It's too bad people don't have a choice as to whether they participate or not. This year I'm going to try hiding under a stairway in the basement . . . I'd really rather not go." This was very good ; ) . . . sadly it is apparently True for millions of citizens.
MDS
4:53 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
For hundreds of years, up until the 1960's it was common to have laws called blue laws which prohibited stores from being open on Sundays, and I think on most holidays as well. Conservatives supported these laws as it supported Christian values. Now money is the holy grail and nothing it seems should get in the way of the pursuit of profit.
Steve ®
8:51 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
Still can't shop for a car on Sunday. Less laws restraining and limiting capitalism the better. Especially in a crap Obama economy.
Daniel S.
10:34 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
Depends what state you live in; whether you can shop for a car or not. Only 15 states do not allow sales on Sunday and the majority are in the midwest. There are also states that do not allow alcohol sale on Sunday or have shortened/restricted sales or hours of operation. These laws have roots going back to the 17th century (1610) . . . . with repeal of laws beginning in the early 1950's.
Craig
10:42 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
Funny that you can buy a car on Saturday but not Sunday.
Actually, state law does allow car sales on Sunday.
ie: If the dealership is Jewish owned, and honors their holy day from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday by being closed- then they may be open Sunday.
As you may have noticed, none want to be the only dealer closed on Saturday.
Fred Jackson
5:45 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
I got sucked into this just once. Never again.
jbw
7:03 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
No, I don't participate in those things at all. I do sometimes buy things at deeper discounts after a holiday. If a business' goal is to maximize profit (i.e. get you to pay the highest premium on the most merchandise) then the consumer's goal is the opposite - so you generally ought to spend nothing when someone else most wants you to spend. Hey, that's just business.
I would consider buying from one of those sales if they were selling something I actually need. Really, how many TV's and DVD players do you need? I don't even have one. You won't see huge discounts on things with real practical value because those aren't insanely overpriced the rest of the year.
Steve ®
8:54 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
A lot shopping on bf are purchasing gifts.
C. Sanders
7:43 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
I prefer any any that Harley branded goods are 25% off at the dealer.
Robert B.
9:00 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
Why does every single article have turn into a political debate? Don't you guys ever get sick of injecting that into all aspects of life? Forget boycotting shopping, I'm all for boycotting political comments. You're not changing anybody's mind, guys. Keep it to yourself for once.
Justa Comment
10:00 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
I agree. Republicans have to make every single thing political, they blame Obama for everything, I'm sure he is also responsible for the weather.
CowDung
10:07 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
I guess you don't recall how GW Bush was blamed for the hurricanes and other severe weather events during his time in office. It isn't just the republicans...
Craig
10:20 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
Robert B. : Not to worry, in four years we all will be standing in lines for our Thanksgiving turkey. People will not be talking politics then, they will be talking about the good old days, when you could earn a paycheck to BUY food.
The only business that will be successful will be those who manufacture Quest cards.
Daniel S.
11:33 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
I believe if one were to pay attention to typical conversation taking place throughout the country, you'd discover very little communication about politics and how to correct the issues facing the nation. More people are talking about irrelevant issues; sports, drinking, sex, purchases they made, hairdo's and makeovers, celebrities . . . true reality has taken a backseat to reality nonsense.
KKP
3:12 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
I absolutely agree, Robert, I was thinking the same thing. This was a simple question about SHOPPING for crying out loud....Why does everything have to morph into political and/or racial issues?? let's keep to the subject here, which is SHOPPING. Political banter can be taken to other, more appropriate forums.
Steve ®
7:21 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
Lead by example?
http://oakcreek.patch.com/users/robert-b-6fa33095
carpediem
9:29 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
Robert, I agree! Green Neighbor Wauwatosa and GoGreen in the Village are holding a Green Your Holidays evening, promoting not only more sensible gift giving but also putting more importance on less stress, more time together, less waste, etc. We can all be more constructive and complain less!
carpediem
9:33 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
The above mentioned event will be next Tuesday evening from 6 to 8pm. We will also have some kids activities planned. Love to see all of you there. There will be no politics involved. Humans are welcome!
NObama 2012
6:33 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
What's long and black and smells really bad? The line in front of Wal Mart on Black Friday.
KKP
6:37 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
shame on you.
Keith Schmitz
6:50 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Yup. No racism in the GOP.
Daniel S.
7:06 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Of course the line is black, it's night time when they open. But once day breaks, it sheds a whole new light on things. Thankfully I won't be there then, nor on any other day of the year.
Satori
8:25 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
America, this is your GOP
The Anti-Alinsky
8:45 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Keith and Satori, you jumped on that generalization way too quickly. Last month there was a rash of car thefts in Shorewood. Does that mean all Shorewood residents are car theives?
Steve ®
12:56 pm on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
I thought they were all tax revenue thieves.
The Anti-Alinsky
9:13 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
No Steve ®, they were stimulus car theives.
KKP
8:28 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
No it is not. It is a few misguided individuals. Your comment is like saying all black people are crooks or all white people are racist. Do not condemn all of us for the comments of the few - or you are no better than they are.