Woman Says Her Son is Landlord of Gunman in Temple Shooting
Woman describes shooter — who lives in Cudahy — as "quiet" and said he had just broken up with his girlfriend.
As authorities searched a home in Cudahy Sunday evening believed to be the residence of the man who shot and killed six people at an Oak Creek Sikh temple, a woman whose son owns that home shed some light on the alleged shooter.
The mother of the suspect’s landlord told Patch Sunday she believed the man had “just broken up with his girlfriend.”
“He’s a renter,” said the woman, whom Patch is not identifying. “He’s new actually. He rented a room with my son.”
The woman said she is “completely freaked out” and that she believes her son found the man as a renter for his home in the 3700 block of E. Holmes Avenue “through an ad.”
“He lived with my son for three weeks, then the house across the street became empty, and he moved there,” she said.
Her son owns both houses, so he remained the man’s landlord, she said.
The suspect's landlord, who was also the suspect's roommate for several weeks, is the brother of a local suburban police detective.
She said that she doesn’t know much about the man, other than his first name, because she couldn’t reach her son Sunday night because he was being interviewed by the police on Sunday night.
“He called to tell me he was being questioned and wouldn’t be able to talk,” she said.
“He was quiet. He worked second shift,” she said of the alleged shooter, who has not been named by authorities. “They (her son and the shooter) both worked a lot, so they never got to see each other.”
She said she remembered the man had just broken up with his girlfriend because “he mentioned that to my son. Then he wanted to move on his own. So he moved to the duplex across the street.”
James R Hoffa
7:14 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Nothing remarkable other than your typical heart break.
Bren
7:41 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
But why attack a Sikh temple because of breaking up with a girlfriend, unless she is a Sikh...
James R Hoffa
7:52 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
@Bren -
What makes you think that the break-up motivated the cold-blooded murders?
Absolutelyfabulous
8:07 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Bren-
There are other ways to handle a break up. Paul Bucher just sent an email to Mke Police Chief Ed Flynn's wife when Jessica let Paul know she was breaking up w/ him.
It just goes to show you...You never know.
Bren
8:10 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
We'll have to wait and see.
Carlos Ben Gurion
9:38 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
The JSO is saying that the cops interviewed a fellow tenant about the guy a month ago and told him to "say nothing right now". Looks like the FBI was anticipating one hell of a breakup.
Carlos Ben Gurion
9:40 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
The JSO is saying that another tenant in the building was interviewed by authorities about the shooter one month ago and told him to "stay quiet for now". They must have been anticipating one heck of a breakup
Sammy
6:23 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
There is no excuse for killing anyone over your breakup, if she is or she isn't Sikh, Where do you get your thought process from? what a dumbass.
Poot
8:02 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
As usual, everyone jumps to a conclusion... yes, definitely... he shot the place up because of a break up with his girlfriend. Now, if someone would just point to where it says that in the above story, we'll be all set.
Stranger
8:37 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
The shooter fits the category called "active killers." An active killer is someone who searches out as many helpless "sheep for the slaughter" as he can find, as part of a plan to commit "suicide by cop." Schools, churches, places where disarmed and helpless people gather are the active killers happy hunting ground. Some sort of rejection, loss of job, loss of girl friend, even a perfectly innocent remark the killer takes as a slight is enough to trigger an active killers rampage.
So yes, the killer, whoever he was, may very well have been set off by "a broken heart."
Stranger
Martin w Linskey sr
9:03 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Having a broken heart doesn"t mean murder murder again and again this person is sick he has to be no sain person could do this,when I say he is sick I meant it to be in so many different ways,We will never know. What a shame but putting him down had to be done, I feel so sorry for the victems and the POLICE department Also the familes.
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Drizzit
9:35 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
He was reported to be a member of the US army & some are saying he had radical views, but didn't belong to any racist group. The reports are saying that there were most likely multiple handguns from one gunman.
Big Pete
11:00 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
What about the NRA?
Jessica McBride
9:36 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
You have the spelling of the landlord's name wrong. I am hearing a different first name for the suspect than the one you listed.
Jessica McBride
9:37 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
We have the landlord's name and aren't reporting it right now, as there is no indication he is involved. You are close but don't have it right.
Daniel Hernandez is not a name that has come up at all.
Glenn Posner
8:06 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
Jessica, if her son is the landlord of the shooter, I would hope he raises his rent.
Jessica McBride
9:38 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
I don't know if it had any motivation for the killing. Just gathering all background facts we can about the shooter. That was the info the mother of the landlord knew.
Texas NDN
9:55 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
What a horrible sad thing. The Sikhs are very peaceful and friendly people. My thoughts & prayers go out to the families of the victims & to the injured.
Dalip Singh
10:01 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Got it, It's Kurt & Tina Weins
http://apserver02.ci.cudahy.wi.us/Scripts/GVSWeb.dll/Card?Community=0&Parcel=6320655
SkinnyDude
10:04 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Time will provide the details which is better than speculation . Fortunately , the officers responded quickly and ended this before it could get a lot worse. Deadly force is really all that can stop a mad man when they engage in these type of acts. Sad situation and there is no justification other than this guy snapped in some way , shape or form . Speculation is pointless , but the fast responding officers really did save the day in a Big way.
Dalip Singh
10:12 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Address is 3725. I found out it was Kurt not through the fox article from like 8 hours ago but because weins was the only name who registered 2 separate parcels on e holmes ave according to the county records. Oh, btw, I'm a Punjabi.. and I'd kind of like to know who this was and what their affiliations are as I live nearby to where this happened and want to know whether I should logically consider moving to another part of the country (or possibly back home to India), or at least just be cautious in my daily activities for as long as I have to live in the Midwest.
Poot
8:04 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
Sounds like you have too much time on your hands.
Drizzit
10:25 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Dalip, I would wager that this guy was just set off with a lot of crazy issues. Not a single time have I ever even seen a negative action brought forward from a Sikh. I also love how they always call me "friend". Your influence in Wisconsin is greatly appreciated, and we side with you 100%. We all seek to live in peace together. I'm a Christian, and I believe everyone should be able to live together, and I especially value your peaceful and logical thoughts. Please stay, and know that this guy was a lunatic and most likely needed psychological help.
GG
11:23 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Speak for yourself...we don't "all side with you 100%"!!!!!
carole Dilger
6:50 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
Drizzit: I also am a Christian and I truly believe this person was filled with much anger & bitterness. He had it in is heart, and carried out his revenge, he was full of evilness. God says that He is the One that says" Vengence is His, saith the Lord God. It is so very sad to see these things happening in our country but such people need God to change their hearts. Yes, he was a very sick person and needed help, from psychologial & also spiritual help from the Lord. God says in His Word that these type of things will come to in the time before He comes to take the Believers of Him out of this cruel world. So, we as Believers in Him need to pray for our country & ask God to heal our land & our people. Blessings to you Drizzit.
Carole....
Dalip Singh
10:27 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Thank you, Drizzit!
Gramps
10:46 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Dalip, One of the news agencies think CBS said it was 3748 E Holmes the search warrant was executed at. They also id the landlord (you were correct on name). He has been interviewed by police and told to give no comment but did say the tenant checked out and worked 2nd shift. Your people have amazed me all day with their poise and calmness and unfortunate it happened under such circumstances but SE Wisconsin and hopefully far further than that has been given an education on Sikhism and specifically its differences from Islam starting with its view and treatment of women.
Any religion who mistreats their mothers, daughters and wives in the name of God worship a false one IMO.
rfky845
11:31 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Obviously you subscribe to some wing nut Islamaphobe site because only extremists treat their women like that. It is sad to see how easily people's opinions can be manipulated into hating another group. I know "Christian" men who have done worse to their wives. Should we let them represent Christianity.
It is just that kind of garbage being spewed that causes thinks like this to happen. Please take a minute to reflect on that.
Sonya Jones
2:25 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
You are a sorry excuse for a human being. I guess you must have finished your indoctrination with some right wing groups or maybe, you want to feel superior by placing other faiths in a negative light. Forget about the world, just see what so called god fearing Christians have done to the African, native Indians and other communities. I have lived among Muslims and Hindus, I have found them to be just like anyone else. Anyway, it's pointless debating with people like you. You are born to hate. Lastly, I can provide thousands of links,where so called Christians have murdered many people. Even this gunmen appears to be a White Christian.
Kiri Paran
4:36 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
Is that why Congress and several states have been obsessed with controilling women in the name of Christianity? Have you ever heard of crusades?
Jaquel Chiraco
10:49 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
The city/village of Cudahy is named after a ham producer, it's part of the South Side of Milwaukee. Not long ago, the area was off-limits to non-whites, the same with Oak Creek. GM's AC Delco is/was located there. just a little bit of history.
Joe
Escalonz
11:07 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
3700 block of E. Holmes Avenue ?????.....................A coincidence? Wasn't that the
name of the loose cannon that committed the Aurora Theatre in Colorado?
Drizzit
11:14 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Escalonz found a very peculiar link. James the nutcase Holmes
Drizzit
11:18 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Was this Kurt's house or the one the shooter lived in?
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/3725-E-Holmes-Ave-25a_Cudahy_WI_53110_M82086-68421?source=web
Kay Lee
11:26 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
My sympathies and Prayers go out to all the victims, thier families, friends, neighbors and caregivers. So sad to have such a despicable act committed against such a wonderful, kind, and peaceful group of people... it breaks our hearts.
Andre
11:30 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
Before concluding tha the break up triggered the domestic terrorism, it's (more) plausible that his GF saw distrubing signs in him that made her run. Assuming she broke up with him.
Jorge
11:41 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012
another case of mistaken identity?, the gunman probably thought t sikhs were muslims This could be a backlash against all the islamic hate that have been going on in wisconsin and michigan etc, honor killings,refusing to let seeing eye dogs into cabs, segregated swimming, islamic terrorism everyday everywhere,stealth jihad , islamic terrorism world wide etc. I hope my speculation is totally wrong and we should love muslims since they are also victim of islam .15 million Sikhs (20 million buddhists, 90 million hindus,millions of christians etc) have been murdered by islam in India over the centuries ..and now Sikhs are being victimized all over again in the new world ..being unfairly blamed for the evil actions of Islam world wide !. After sept 11 ignorant people shot and killed sikhs confusing them with muslims who were the terrrorists that killed 3000 innocent americans simply because they were non muslims. Muslims even kill their own muslims if they are from different sects or are not pious enuf ! This is so sad . See : http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/muslim-attacks-on-sikhs-islamic-jihad.html, http://criticalppp.com/archives/53567, http://barenakedislam.com/2009/05/25/muslim-persecution-of-sikhs-and-hindus/, http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/02/pakistan-taliban-behead-3-sikhs-for-refusing-to-convert-to-islam.html , www.thereligionofpeace.com, www.radicalislam.org
Roberto Samuel
12:19 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
What a idiotic response. People like you are usually 50+, unemployed or retired with no one to worry about and no one that cares about you. So out of boredom you hate like a rabid dog. Linking all these idiotic hate sites. Its like going to DavidDuke and StormFront and asking about blacks and Jews.
You go as far as making an account on this site solely for the purpose to spout the hate. You must have a sad existence.
Sonya Jones
2:29 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
You are a sorry excuse for a human being. I guess you must have finished your indoctrination with some right wing Christian groups or maybe you are a fan of news network like Fox. Perhaps, you want to feel superior by placing other faiths in a negative light. Forget about the world, just see what so called god fearing American Christians have done to the African, native Indians and other communities. I have lived among Muslims and Hindus, I have found them to be just like anyone else. Anyway, it's pointless debating with people like you. You are born to hate. Lastly, I can provide thousands of links,where so called Christians have murdered many people. Even this gunmen appears to be a White Christian.
rfky845
12:17 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
Do you have to insert Muslim rhetoric? You could have made your point without it.
Jena
12:55 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
Jena. I think what Jorge said was truer than humanity wants to admit. If it were men who were treated like many women in Middle Eastern countries, the U.S.A. would've launched a war with them long ago. Imagine if men were forbidden to drive in Saudi Arabia or go out only with their mothers and sisters. Our male testosterone fueled Congress would declare War in a heartbeat. Where would we get our oil?
Roberto, the only person spewing hate in that dialogue was you!
Sonya Jones
2:31 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
@Jena. You are simply racist and a bigot.
VIREN
1:07 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR BLAMING ANYONE ! IT WOULD JUST BE RIGHT THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE EDUCATED ABOUT SIKH RELIGION AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR. SIKHS ARE VERY PEACELOVING AND LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ! IT IS THE IGNORANT PEOPLE WHO SEE SIKHS AS MUSLIMS !
Becca Smith
1:13 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
I am a Christian, My heart goes out to any person who has lost a loved one, family mamber or friend due to being gunned down in the street..... to the injuries done by hate or simply because a person walks into a public place and guns down innocent people.... May God bless the families of each victim and those with injury!
Edward Serio
1:18 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
My heart hurts after hearing about this story,I have many friend's from India and are all peace loving people.My prayers to all the victims and their families
Donald Duck
1:30 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
It is good to comment and not having to sign up something or be blasted with stupid adds
Donald Duck
1:32 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
right on
peacelover
2:36 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
Every community has people who do horrible things. Since this guy was a White Male and assuming a Christian. Should we blame Christianity and Bible to be the reason of this horrible crime. Like wise when a group of crazy Muslims commit a crime why do we associate the RELIGION and ALL those who follow it to be the same way. People need to really research about each and every religion. I don't believe that there is any religion who allows hate and taking lives of the innocent. People need to stop believing everything the media portrays. Why don't the media show coverage on average Muslims who are living around the world peacefully. A religion can never be wrong only those who follow it can be at fault and not all those who follow may be a good example of it. And saying that Sikhs are mistaken as Muslims and often targeted because of it, would that mean that if this was done to Muslims it was permissible. And even Mary mother of Jesus used to cover her head and so do nuns. Why so much hate against a Muslim women if she follows that in today's world. People need to come to terms with reality and see every side of the story not just the one that is portrayed in the media. These things are the major reason of so much hate among each other. Please spread love and tolerance.
squatting dog
7:15 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
@Sonya Jones, I see when you're losing an arguement you resort to the old tried and true answer. (you're a bigot or racist) Let's not find the facts, let's just lump all christian's in with fox news etc. I'm a little surprised you haven't mentioned Tea party yet. Never mind that all through history, people of all races, have commited heinous crimes... noooooo it must be that evil fox news. Bless your heart.
Casey
7:35 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
There's nothing more relavant in this tragedy than to interview the mother of the perpetrator's landlord?
Are we resorting to the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon for news stories now?
Poot
8:24 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
Yes, when that's all there is.
cyndiandcompany
9:01 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
Sadly there will never be any real answers to all of this scein the ONLY person who could answer them is dead.We can only speculate as to why this man did something so horriffic.I have heard SO many things that its hard to knwo whats the truth.Ive heard that he was a white supremiise and had a 911 tattoo on his arm, so did he think these were muslim people? who knows.What did the break up have to do with anything? who kows.I ahve to agree with a previosu comment that anyone who does horriffic things like this so many things twist their minds that its impossible to ever knwo why someone does soemthing liek this.I also have to sadly agree that it seems anytime ther is a crime against a religion or group of peole from another group that it is always "labled" &becomes about that ¬ the personal issues of the ones who are doing the crime tiself. Its almost as if we have to catorgize if so we can find some sort of justification or peace in our own minds as to why it happened? What I do know is that we are now living in a world where its not safe to take in a movie or go to church or anywhere else anymore because you never know who is going to have a bad day and decied to do soemthing foolish.What I do wish for is for is that these families can find some peace, having to relive this over and over again everytime they turn on the tv, or see a paper has got to be difficult, you cant really try to heal when the woud is open & everywhere.our hearts an prayer to everyone involved
Suzy Cares
10:08 am on Monday, August 6, 2012
@sonya Jones, Drizzit, and Dalip Singh. It's funny how you are first to point out where the shooter lived and go straight to skin color and name calling. But somehow he and others are all the problem. Maybe this is a time to stop and look in the mirror. You are helping to creat the issue not solve it. This is a time to call for calm and understanding, not made up finger pointing and name calling.
Michael
12:23 pm on Monday, August 6, 2012
I think the officer that was shot a 8 or 9 time should be given the highest honor the oak creek police department has to offer as well as the highest honor our nation has to offer from our president. What a brave an honorable thing for the officer to do! My family and I will be praying for this officer and I hope the rest of you willdo the same