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POLL: Are you Mac or PC?

The imminent release of competing operating systems — Windows 8 and Macintosh Mountain Lion — brings the question to the forefront again.

For all the tablets, smart phones, touch screens and other technological marvels that infiltrate our daily lives, personal computing still comes down to one simple question:

Are you Mac … or PC?

Apple and Microsoft remain the industry titans, and each has upgrades to its main operating system on the brink of release. Windows 8 is slated for debut this fall, Microsoft recently announced. Meanwhile, Apple just this week launched Mountain Lion, the $20 upgrade to its own operating system.

But the question has moved beyond a person’s preferred navigation of technology and now lives firmly in our popular culture. A series of Apple-produced TVs ads, co-starring Justin Long, started it. Microsoft responded with its own spots, proudly proclaiming, “I’m a PC.” The Pantsless Knights turned the question into a rap song and video, while the Onion delights in skewering the Macintosh culture.

So what about you? Are you Mac … or PC? (Full disclosure: Patchers use Macs on the job.) Vote in our poll and tell us in the comments.

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Dave Bruno July 29, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Mac for computer idiots like me. Amazing what it can do and so simple.
Abe Van Dyke July 30, 2012 at 12:11 am
I see so my judgement here people and it's kinda silly. Example: "Mac owners are snobby". What you need to do is realize both operating systems have their place. Windows XP, soon to be 3versions old is championed because it is stable... But how many years ago was it released and needed fixes along the way. Apple on the other hand is moving in a different direction with Mountain Lion; one of the major things will be Facebook integration in Fall. Look it up. I personally don't need the ability to Like, Share and Rate everyerything; all the time. Windows has many businesses that invested time on their system back when Apple was still in its infancy and ya know what, if you spent that time and money... The business will probably keep it and upgrade as needed. Apple has long been the standard for graphic arts industry businesses from photos, design, video, etc. Both companies have their own word processor... Yet Word, a Mircrosoft application is far favored over Apples Pages. I would be willing to bet that well over 60% of Macs have Word on them. Apple has made it so you can virtually install Windows which is a plus. Viruses and all that; both systems get them... But Windows computers are more likely to be hit; for now. We have a generation of kids being brought up Macs, so one day the tides may turn and Macs have widely advertised virus issues. One moment please... ~A
Abe Van Dyke July 30, 2012 at 12:12 am
... And I'm back. Going on... Price: you get what you pay for end of story. For some a $200 desktop is enough and others need a $5,000 desktop; it's all about what you need the machine to do so quit whining. There's plenty more to say, but you get the idea. ~A
Matt Schroeder (Editor) July 30, 2012 at 12:38 am
I'm sure there are downsides to Macs compared to PCs, but as a longtime Mac user — in a household with a PC user who tends to curse her computer a lot — I'm not seeing them.
Daniel S. July 30, 2012 at 12:48 am
"I have found that Mac owners tend to be very snobby...treating those who don't have one as though they were idiots." I wonder, are iPhone users snobs, how about iPad, iPod? My experience tells me a few things about why many people I have known since the early 90's chose PC's. They were cheaper (in many ways), more knew how to fix them (they needed it), they ran games and comparable graphics cards didn't exist for the Mac.. The Mac has always been easier to set-up & was typically less buggy overall. They were expensive and are compared to some of the disposable PC's out there. My 22 year old Mac still works fine, but is beyond upgrade, as is my 15 year old Mac. My 9 year old Mac was made obsolete by introduction of Intel boards in the Mac world. I have a brother who was a dedicated PC user for 20 years. He bought an iMac 2 years ago and immediately said: I can't believe how easy it is to set up! He cannot believe he didn't change sooner. I have friends that said Apple was going under, for years. Granted, if not for the iPod, they might have. They are gaining ground in the computer world since the introduction of the iPad, it's making people rethink their personal computer choice. Some Mac people might think they are immune to viruses, etc., but many of us know we are not immune, it's just that those looking to create havoc within operating systems, seek to cause trouble for as large a group as possible; that being the PC market. More isn't always better : (
Steve Rogers July 30, 2012 at 12:58 am
I'm a PC working and saving so that I can become a Mac
Heather Asiyanbi (Editor) July 30, 2012 at 01:07 am
@Hoffa - how is it that I have no trouble picturing you with that dinosaur Commodore?! ;)
C. Sanders July 30, 2012 at 01:25 am
iMac, iPhone and iPad at home with an XP PC at he office.
AWD July 30, 2012 at 01:26 am
All of the Mac people I've met are arrogant elitist zealots.
Dirk Gutzmiller July 30, 2012 at 01:47 am
AWD - Not at all in my experience....most MAC users tend to be Democrats, not the arrogant and elitist bankers, hedge fund operators, Wall Streeters, etc.
Johnny Paycheck July 30, 2012 at 01:47 am
The downside of the Mac is that replacement parts for it cost 400-1000% more than the same part for a PC.
M C July 30, 2012 at 01:59 am
Some pretty old arguments about Macs. You get what you pay for. Macs aren't the cheapest if you look only at initial cost. But given overall cost over the life of the computer Macs are competitive or even cheaper. They last longer, require less support and have less issues and therefore less downtime. And beyond that, the user experience on a Mac OS is, at least for many, a very different and better experience. I use a Mac because I can't stand sitting in front of Windows. The Mac OS and hardware is such a better experience in my opinion. The OS is rock solid, the interface is excellent and intuitive. It excels in ease of use. It is aesthetically pleasing to me as well. I'll pay the extra for that experience any day. Windows has closed the gap somewhat in recent years, but that is outweighed by the explosion of PC viruses, some of which are very damaging, that make PCs such a hassle today.
There are some situations where Windows is still a requirement, especially in proprietary business systems and financial/accounting, but for most everything else and certainly for anything creative, Mac is the way to go IMHO. As to status symbols, I could care less.
Johnny Paycheck July 30, 2012 at 02:00 am
Mac's are nice... until they break and you find out that Apple gets $400 for a power supply and $800 for an LCD screen, and that's IF you can do your own repairs-- otherwise add another 30-50% for labor. I got quoted $1000 once on a 13" LCD screen replacement on a Macbook Air. You can buy a 55" flatscreen TV for less than that so I promptly deposited the machine the trash, which fortunately was still free at the time. Generally speaking it's more economical to repair a Cadillac than a Macbook computer.
Also almost none of the computer skills that you pick up while using a mac will ever convert into computer knowledge that you can use at your job. Aside from printing companies and graphics design jobs I can think of no business that has their employees working on Macs. They're just too expensive and won't run much of the software that businesses run on.
Nick Poulos July 30, 2012 at 02:04 am
Mac's are the best designed, most inclusive machines on the market. As to running programs for your business: even custom-designed, "internally-focused", software can run smoothly on your Mac. Unlike an earlier comment: I discarded 8 PC's for 7 Macs; and never have I been unhappy with that decision. Sorry: no other machines hold a candle to what Cupertino produces.
Nancy K July 30, 2012 at 02:23 am
Dirk says: .most MAC users tend to be Democrats, not the arrogant and elitist bankers, hedge fund operators, Wall Streeters, etc.
Ah, you mean most MAC users tend to be Democrats who expect the government to give them one because they are entitled to have one, paid for by the people who use PCs. :-)
Bob McBride July 30, 2012 at 02:33 am
As to running programs for your business: even custom-designed, "internally-focused", software can run smoothly on your Mac.
************** Incorrect. There's plenty of custom designed "internally focused" business related programs built for the PC platform that won't run on a Mac. Why even make such a ridiculous statement? Frankly, in a business environment, whether you're networking a couple dozen or a couple hundred computers, why would you want to do it with a bunch of Macs when you can accomplish exactly the same thing on PCs for a lot less - even if that was a realistic option?
M C July 30, 2012 at 02:41 am
Seems like you haven't met many Mac people.
Johnny Paycheck July 30, 2012 at 02:53 am
" even custom-designed, "internally-focused", software can run smoothly on your Mac."
Sure it can, albeit not so smoothly, and provided you run the Mac's "parallels" Windows emulator, in which case you still have to install a version of windows, an antivirus program, etc. In that case what you have is a really expensive piece of hardware that's trying to pretend it's a PC and two operating systems to maintain instead of one. You will also have a much more limited pool of potential employees to choose from provided they need to know how to operate the machine, or else you will have to fund a much higher learning curve as your employees learn to do everything a computer all over again.
Johnny Paycheck July 30, 2012 at 03:11 am
Steve Jobs made Apple what it was-- he did it the first time, and then when he left the company they lost almost all of their market share and would have gone out of business had he not returned and started doing things his way again. The man has been dead for less than a year so it's too early to say at this point what will happen to the company with their creative genius gone for good. They have not invented anything new and innovative since he's been gone though and if the past is any indication of the future the company will be in trouble again within 3-5 years.
Daniel S. July 30, 2012 at 03:36 am
It's really sad that so many people still don't seem to understand that the Mac is an extremely capable computer, capable of doing things efficiently, quickly and across multiple platforms. It is extremely easy to learn rarely needs repairs. In 22 years, I've had to replace a battery once and could've replaced a mother board for $400, but seeing as it was old Motorola tech and was no longer upgradable, I chose to buy a new Mac after 10 years of use with near ZERO investment during that period. I spent 70$ for a disk utility cleaning program after 7 years. FYI, many people in the scientific & research communities including NASA have been using Macs for roughly 10 years. I've been to stores that have iMac registers, the list goes on and on.
Johnny Paycheck July 30, 2012 at 03:44 am
Sure they're great in some areas, but one has to ask why it's never occurred to any fortune 500 company CEO to replace all of their Windows machine's with Mac's... Or perhaps it has and they've found that the total cost of ownership is too high and it doesn't do much of what they would need to accomplish with it?
Andrew Benson July 30, 2012 at 05:57 am
When working in Graphic Design or Digital Media, it's assumed that Mac is the way to go. Not the case, On the highest end desktop Macintosh, it took me more than 9 hours to render a 52 second animation, and even then it ended up resulting in a fatal error. The same day I wen home and installed the After Effects trial on my custom built PC.
It took under 4 hours to render the video, and properly convert it. The most hilarious thing about this. My PC costs a quarter of what the Mac costs.
N. Peske July 30, 2012 at 02:25 pm
Denise, I work in Word on Mac all the time. It's very easy to change your toolbars. That said, Word for Office 2008 will crash constantly if you're in a big file with lots of track changes unless you know a few tricks. Go to View: Toolbars to change your toolbars.
N. Peske July 30, 2012 at 02:37 pm
Couldn't care less what's "cool." I just want 100 percent reliability. I don't care about selection of software, either. I only use about 7 programs. I think the choice really depends on one's needs. I can't fathom a business owner using a PC if they have a choice. It's just too dicey.
I got my Mac when a virus totally screwed me up on a severe deadline. My client said, "If my book hits the bestseller list, I'll buy you any computer you like." And she did...that's how I switched to Mac. NEVER AGAIN!
Bren July 30, 2012 at 10:19 pm
I own a desktop pc, newer laptop pc (6 months), and MacBook Pro (in addition to an iPhone). All solid equipment, each of which are used for different purposes. I also like being able to hook the laptops to the tv via HDMI cables.
JO August 7, 2012 at 07:48 pm
Here is a good article to read for people who believe that Apple is not vulnerable to security breaches: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/apple-amazon-mat-honan-hacking/all/.
M C August 8, 2012 at 05:23 am
You don't have to run an "emulator." Macs have been Intel processor based for years. Windows on a Mac is not running in emulation; it is running on Intel with only slight mods for connectivity, etc. Years ago with PowerPCs Windows could be installed but ran in emulation with an additional layer of software that emulated an Intel chip for Windows to work with the PowerPC processor of the Mac. This made Windows run slow, with a variety of other issues. This is no longer the case with Macs of the past five years.
M C August 8, 2012 at 05:32 am
Overall Mac is definitely the way to go for graphic design, etc. There may be some particular tasks that run faster on a PC, but the bulk of the creative world is on Mac. And even in animation your above comparison is not likely a representative comparison of Macs and PCs. It would depend on what animation software was being used, which Macs and PCs were being compared, and precisely which tasks were being attempted.
The reality is that most folks also don't want to deal with your cheap, "custom-built" PC and all the issues and technical skills needed to build it. People have been building cheap PCs for decades now, even in their garages. The mishmash of parts may be cheaper, but the user experience, lifespan, and resale does not compare with Macs, or even with better quality PCs. The key advantage Macs have, IMHO, is the clean and tight integration of software and hardware to create a great and intuitive user experience. I don't care how cheap or fast your PC is, it can't duplicate that aspect of Mac computing. It is probably the biggest reason why I sit in front of a Mac every day instead of a PC, and why I would happily pay more for it.
M C August 8, 2012 at 05:43 am
Macs are not invulnerable to viruses. Any OS is subject to security breaches, but the reality is that in the current computing environment PCs are much more susceptible than Macs, due both to the number of viruses and worms, etc., on the PC platform, the potential seriousness of their impact, and the level of security Macs provide with their Unix-based OS over PCs with Windows.
If you read the above article, you should also note that a. the hackers did not really break into the Mac operating system. Instead they managed to get a hold of passwords that gave them access to areas by which they could make trouble. This is a breakdown of a person's individual security habits, and a breach of Amazon and Apple's customer service, etc., not a breakdown of the OS. b. no viruses were even involved. And the entire incident would have been avoided if the user had been smarter about use of passwords, linked accounts, backing up data, etc.
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