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Footbridge Foe Calls for $12.5K Survey of Taxpayers

In a letter to the Village Board, a new taxpayers group requests $12,500 to survey all Fox Point residents about the use of taxpayer money for the Bridge Lane footbridge project.

A newly-formed Fox Point Taxpayers Alliance is requesting $12,500 from the Village Board to survey all Fox Point taxpayers about the use of taxpayer money for the Bridge Lane footbridge project.

Larry Booth, a longtime opponent of the footbridge who serves as the president of the new group, said the Taxpayers Alliance deserves access to village funds, just as the to start its $625,000 fundraising campaign.

Booth said the majority of residents are not aware of the cost of the footbridge project. In a letter to the board, Booth said trustees should give equal credence to villagers who do not support the footbridge project.

"Therefore, in the interest of fairness, citizen participation and the obligation of government to abide by the will of the people, we request that you afford us the same treatment as Footbridge Friends and agree to fund a taxpayer survey conducted by the Fox Point Taxpayers Alliance," Booth said.

Specifically, the group is requesting $2,500 to write and design the questionnaire, $4,500 for the printing of the survey mailer, two-way postage and processing and $5,500 in marketing funds to ensure maximum community participation.

The group is also requesting to make a presentation to trustees and the public at the March 12 Village Board meeting. 

Bob Cory February 22, 2013 at 04:25 PM
This is a 3 million dollar low priority capitol project in a village of 6600 residents which favors only the residents immediate to the bridge. The village board seems bound and determined to spend the money. Are they influenced by the residents near the bridge? The board refuses to investigate cheaper alternatives. The village refuses to allow residents to ask questions about the expenditure. The fund raising for partial payment of the bridge has fallen short of its goal and the village will not recover the $30,000.00 it "gave" to the fund raisers as a starter fund.
Absolutelyfabulous February 22, 2013 at 08:53 PM
Let's see, they've dragged this out, shut you out and never had any intentions of listening to the other voices. Now, as 1,2 or 3 persons you have no say/power. Your only chances are in numbers, which if you rely on the Village of Fox Point to give you any type of funding to undermine their efforts, you're singing to the choir on that one. Though, good luck.
Dave Koven February 23, 2013 at 08:00 PM
The bridge project does not have to be done all at once. We've lived without it this long, we can wait a little longer as the economy evens out. However, to lose the bridge would be a serious mistake. It is one of the reasons that Fox Point is a special place to live. It is easily accessed by bike or on foot. The village is not that big. The village might want to consider a small parking area at one end (two or three cars), so it would be handicapped accessible.
Bob Cory February 23, 2013 at 08:22 PM
How long would you have to wait for the economy to "even out" to justify spending 3 million dollars on a low priority capitol improvement in a village of 6600 residents? Given that higher priority projercts had all been completed. The problem that surfaces is that the board refuses to tune in most of the 6600 resident as to what tax money is spend on. What happens when, while we are in hock for this bridge, a much larger emergency need arises. Would we have the barganing power neceswary to accomplish that new need? These are not times when such an undertaking makes sense!
Dave Koven February 23, 2013 at 09:18 PM
I agree that now is not the time to do this project, but it should eventually be done. I wish I knew just when the economy would even out, but, if possible, budget overages could be set aside, if any, and donations could continue to be collected and earmarked for this project. As for tuning in to the residents, I think the board tunes in to whomever shows up to the meetings. The board does not all live on Barnett/Bridge Lane.
Bob Cory February 23, 2013 at 10:05 PM
The board has done nothing to inform all the residents of the village. In many municipalities a project of this magnitude would be subjected to a referendum. The board has refused to consider such action. The fact that the fund raisers failed to raise the goal indicates how the village feels about this activity. The board has borrowed and budgeted over a million to an as yet undefined project. They threw away 30 K of your money on this unknown project. Wake up, this is your tax money that could be put to far better purpose. The only ones that favor it are the ones who show up at the village mtgs and live near the bridge. You dont get the message......the rest of the village has not been told of the boards intent to foster this ridiculous venture! Tear down the bridge and return the ravine to nature!
Dave Koven February 24, 2013 at 06:05 PM
If the bridge does not get built, donated money will be returned to the donors. Since no construction has taken place, no tax money has been actually spent, except for the private money used to hire the consulting engineer. As I understand it, that was donated by some families that lived in the area of the bridge. As I have said before, there is no hurry to complete the project. There is plenty of time to save up for it, but we SHOULD fix the bridge. It's a wonderful public resource unique to Fox Point.
Bob Cory February 24, 2013 at 06:54 PM
You need to be aware of ALL the facts. The village is out 30 K fronted to the failed fund raisers and irrecoverable! The village has spent several thousand on engineering studies with as yet no results. The village has allocated over 500 K inm the 2013 for an as yet undefined if at all bridge. Many, many months ago the village borrowed over a million to fund a bridge of unknown scope. The village is spending money on interest on the borrowed money. You see, much has been wasted. If you want all the facts just contact the newly formed Taxpayers Alliance which was formed primarily to get the village to put out a survey with such info to people like you in the village so that all the residents can be kept current and have a voice. So you see, the village is deep into this project with no direction! By the way, the private money that was donated for an engineering study was long ago and worthless.
Absolutelyfabulous February 26, 2013 at 01:07 AM
$12,500..C'mon...For under $100, possibly under $50 depending on how many flyers you printed, some coordination and pounding the pavement this effort could have been initiated months ago. BTW, a Facebook page costs nothing. Instead of wasting hours upon hours attending Village Hall meetings and being ignored, why not change direction ASAP. BTW, how much money was spent on the T-shirt? Could have been spent on ink/paper. Here you go..All you need is access to a printer, some paper & ink..Not even color, just black & white. A few hours on the computer putting together a 1 page flyer and you could have been off & running. -5,000 sheets of blank printer paper - $29.00 + tax @ Office Depot (Hammermill® Tidal® MP Office Paper, 8 1/2" x 11", 20 Lb, 105 (Euro)/92 (US) Brightness, 500 Sheets Per Ream, Case Of 10 Reams) http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/347005/Hammermill-Tidal-MP-Office-Paper-8/?couponcode=67581217 HP 10, Black Ink Cartridge (C4844A) Item # 352871 • Yields up to 2,200 pages. http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/352871/HP-10-Black-Ink-Cartridge-C4844A/
Bob Cory February 26, 2013 at 01:22 AM
Again, your ignorance of the ongoing proceedings surfaces. To this day, the true facts have not been released by the village engineer making it difficult to put out a true picture to the community. I dont know how many of the village board mtgs you have attended, but the chronological order of this ongoing fiasco is available as public record if you desire full enlightenment. You also fail to address the need to distribute the info survey to over 2500 homes. This whole project should have gone to referendum long ago.
Bob Cory February 26, 2013 at 01:27 AM
To Absolutelyfabulous Perhaps you might join us to inform the community how careless the village board is with public funds? Or, are you wearing one of the cute and fashionable little buttons (that my tax money paid for) announcing a save the bridge campaign?
Bob Cory February 26, 2013 at 01:32 AM
To Absolutelyfabulous: You seem to be very opinionated on this forum but I do not recall you ever presenting your thoughts to the board. Perhaps you did so with a bit more courage using your given name?
Absolutelyfabulous February 26, 2013 at 02:15 AM
Where has all the time you have spent attending Village meetings and writing editorials on Patch gotten you? Seriously, please tell me what you have accomplished vs regurgitating the same old, same old while the Village Board keeps on keepin on and steamrolling ahead. Now, you can demand that the Village Trustees fork over $12,500 to undermine their years long efforts in sustaining this project or you can step outisde of the box which you et al refuse to do and keep thinking that the "system" will work in your favor as well. So far it hasn't, so what's going to change?
Bob Cory February 26, 2013 at 02:25 AM
Attending the village board mtgs is a right of all village residents and has been an informing and learning experience. I have attended these meetings many times in the past before the bridge matter gained prominence. Tell me, what interest do you take in the welfare of your community? Do any of the activities of the village board members who were duly elected interest you? Have you ever attended these meetings other than now? This is your tax money being spent and we all have a right to know just how that is happening. The important thing is that the board knows that some of us in the village are interested in the future of the community!
Absolutelyfabulous February 26, 2013 at 02:51 AM
Attend all the board meetings that you want to get the latest updates on who's the newest consultant to be hired, what latest engineer says or how much more $$ will be appropriated for this project. But, where have your "protests" at all these board meetings gotten you? How many more people against this project have showed up or even know what is happening because of all your Patch articles/blogs? All the time you have just spent responding to this thread could have been spent setting up a Facebook page w/ contacts and all the info you have at hand as well as everything that has been presented via the Village Board meetings. So, feel free to waste your time responding because I've got carrots to peel, pearl onions to saute in between Bob Newhart and bypassing commercials w/ this thread.
Bob Cory February 26, 2013 at 03:30 AM
To the Patch editorial Board: Most media forums of this type require that the writer uses his legal name submitted along with his entry. It is strange that the only one doing entries here with a "cover name" is this Asolutelyfabulous. I suggest you disalllow his entries. Bob Cory
Bob Cory February 26, 2013 at 03:32 AM
I wish you well with your cullinary creations!
Bob Cory February 26, 2013 at 03:35 AM
I wish you well with your cullinary creations!
Absolutelyfabulous February 26, 2013 at 12:06 PM
Thank you. I managed to saute those carrots w/ some Colavita EVO, salt & Trader Joe's Charles Shaw Chardonnay (Gotta love that $2-or 3,99 bottle of wine for cooking). Then it was on to chopping the celery and repeating procedure. Next, Crimini mushrooms and garlic once again chopped, sauteed. Open a block of TJ Firm tofu and cut up and add to pot. Also, added some Muir Ground Peeled tomatoes along w/ some freshly ground Coriander to the "liquid gold" vegetable stock made earlier and other sauted veggies. Once again while doing this while now watching Oscar propose to Gloria because Felix was too nervous. AND what did Bob Cory manage to accomplish during this next round of posts? It sure wasn't creating a Facebook page dedicated to the New "Taxpayers Alliance" w/ Discusion boards, photos, links et al but some preposterous request to the editorial staff of Patch that users now be required to post their real names. HINT..maybe you haven't read any other stories/comments in Patch because there are just a couple others out there using alias's. BONUS...If you created a Facebook Page/Discussion then ONLY :) "real" people posting/commenting could participate. Then again there are ways around that as well, but since there would be moderators, then one could control the flow of info. posted and who could join. and then you don't have to whine to Patch about anonymous posters who hurt your feelings while pointing out the obvious.
Absolutelyfabulous February 26, 2013 at 02:40 PM
Even better- Facebook and all of it's options for gathering/posting/discussing whatever strikes ones fancy (as long as it is w/in Facebook guidelines) will cost someone a grand total of $0 to create one hell of a portal for anything/everything ones needs to get all information/links to Village Board Meetings/decisions. Better yet, the web created by people tuning in/becoming members and passing that info on to others/neighbors who may also be very interested in what is/has happened can happen very quickly and painlessly as well. Then you don't have to waste how much more time getting the run around from the Village Trustees and surely stonewalled on your requests to receive $12,500 to put together/print ( a little archaic w/ all of the other resources out there that are FREE & FASTER) & post any/all literature at hand concerning the Bridge/costs/decisions made. Seriously, how many tactics do you think will be employeed to stonewall any request for funds to once again undermine the Village Board et friends on this bridge? I believe the board meets 1 time per month and how many months could they string this out while pushing ahead with their agenda. Go around them, step outside of the box and utilize what is available and free..Facebook is just a start. You need to build a base and go from there and do it quickly.
Bob Cory February 26, 2013 at 03:02 PM
To Absolutely fabulous: Seriously, GET A LIFE!
Absolutelyfabulous February 26, 2013 at 04:06 PM
Bob- You're just too much fun.
Bob Cory February 26, 2013 at 04:14 PM
WHATEVER

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